New Train Car Project: FAQ (2024)

FAQ: Next Generation BART Trains

A big thanks to those of you who have filled out surveys or emailed comments to us about the next generation of BART train cars. Below are answers to frequent questions. To comment on BART’s new train cars, click here.

Q1: When did the newBART trains arrive?

A:The first ten train cars went into service January 2018following safety and reliability testing, and regulatory approval.New cars will arrive steadily over a period of about sixyears. BART already has 775 new carson order, with a goal to obtain enoughfunding for1,200 new cars.This will provide enough cars to run 10 car trains on all peak service into San Francisco, and will increase the number of seats in the fleet by more than 60%.

Q2:Will new seats and floors be easy to clean?

A: Yes. We have heard loud and clear thatBART riders want easy-to-clean seat upholstery and floors.

Q3:Will the new cars be less noisy on board?

A: Yes, BART is requiring the car builder to meet the highest standards in the United States regarding train car interior noise and noise absorption. To achieve this requirement, the new cars will have plug style doors that better seal out the noise.

Additionally, BART is changing the surface of the train wheels to make for a quieter ride. Using computer modeling technology that was unavailable even 10 years ago, the shape of the wheel has been redesigned to a slightly tapered profile that promises to not only reduce noise, but to reduce wear and tear on the rails. Initial testing shows the new wheel profile could cut noise by as much as 50 percent. All Fleet of the Future cars will feature the new wheel profile. It will take a few years to update the wheel profiles on all of BART’s existing train cars.

Q4:Will the new train cars have as many seats as the old cars?

A: No, the new cars will have 4.6 fewer seats on average. The new cars use thinner seat backs to help maximize seat count, and are outfitted with as many seats as can fit within the available space.

Available space for seating is limited by new buffer zones at the ends of each car required for crash safety, a third door on each car to make it faster and easier to get off the train, and priority space for bicyclists and people who use wheelchairs. To increase the number of seats in the fleet, BART has set a goal to obtain funding to increase the number of cars purchased from 669 currently to 1,200 train cars in the future. This increase, along with a new, modern train control system, would increase the number of seats in the fleet by more than 60%.

Q5:Will you have open space to accommodate wheelchairs andluggage?

A:Yes, the new trains include designated spaces for wheelchairs. In addition, by popular demand, BART seats are mounted higher off the floor on the new train cars, making the seats more comfortable and increasing the amount of space under the seats to stow luggage.

New Train Car Project: FAQ (1)

Q6:Is it viable to have dedicated bike cars in set locations on BART trains?

A:No, BART cars reverse directions at the ends of the lines, and moreover are continuously coupled and uncoupled in between runs throughout the day. For these reasons, it is not possible to keep a “bike car” in a predictable position on a train. For example, a special car at the front of a train might be end up being at the back of the train later in the day. Or two 4-car trains might be joined to make an 8-car train with bike cars then in the middle as well as on the ends, greatly reducing seating for our riders. Instead of a dedicated bike car, the current design calls for twobike areas on each car to provide a predictable and convenient place to hold bikes during times when bikes are allowed on the trains

New Train Car Project: FAQ (2)

Q7: Will the new car have more places for shorter people to hold on?

A:Yes, they have more poles, handholds, and hand straps to better meet the needs of those who cannot reach overhead stanchions, as well as elderly and disabled customers who have told us they want more handholds near the doors to avoid losing their balance as trains accelerate or decelerate. They also include two lengths of handstraps to better accommodate riders of different heights.

Q8:Can we have digital screens that tell us what station is the next stop?

A:Yes, there are digital screens on the new trains (located next to side doors) to enhance passenger information.The screens display a dynamic system map, the next stop information, courtesy reminders and safety tips.

Q9: Will the new cars be faster?

A:No. The new cars have a maximum speed of 80 miles per hour. To go faster than that, changes would need to be made, not only to the rail car propulsion systems, but also to other BART infrastructure. Still, the new cars can help reduce travel times by having more doors, which will lessen the time needed for passengers to board and alight the train at stations.

Q10:Are the cars"made in America" creating U.S. jobs?

A: Yes, final assembly of the car is in the United States and the cars contain at least 2/3 American manufactured components, including the Train Control, propulsion system, the brakes, and all the electrical wiring.

Q11:Can BART require the new rail cars to be built locally, right here in the Bay Area?

A:No, federal contracting provisions prohibit BART from placing any requirements on where in the U.S. assembly must take place, or where parts must be manufactured. Nevertheless, jobs have been and will be created locally to support the design, commissioning, warranty and other activities associated with the project. (Update:On June 14, 2019Bombardier Transportation announced it is opening a rail car assembly site in Pittsburg, California to assemble BART’s Fleet of the Future rail cars. This work, which is currently taking place in upstate New York, will be transferred to the Bay Area over the coming months.)

Q12: Are the new train carsWiFi equipped?

A:Yes, the new train cars are "WiFi ready." But for customers to enjoy quality WiFi service, coverage in BART stations and tunnels needs to expand.BART continues to workto extend WiFi coverage in the BART system.

Q13:Do new train cars have charging stations for phones and other devices?

A: No. BART recognizes that charging stations would be a valuable feature, but did not include them on the new cars because of the ongoing maintenance costs involved. Moreover, battery technology for mobile devices is expected to continue to improve dramatically in the coming years, reducing the need to charge devices during a typical BART trip (average travel time is approximately 20 minutes).

Q14: I heard the new trains use Seattle Seahawks colors? Is that true?

A:No, the primary Seahawks color is a dark navy, whereas the BART train cars use a traditional BART blue. The greens are also different. A 2014 survey of more than 7,000 customers showed that over 80% support the proposed color design for the new train cars.

New Train Car Project: FAQ (3)

New Train Car Project: FAQ (2024)

FAQs

Are the new BART cars faster? ›

Q9: Will the new cars be faster? A: No. The new cars have a maximum speed of 80 miles per hour. To go faster than that, changes would need to be made, not only to the rail car propulsion systems, but also to other BART infrastructure.

What are the new BART trains going to look like? ›

For taller customers, the design features a higher ceiling over the middle aisles, about four inches higher than the current BART train cars. The ceiling is accented with indirect light. The new train car design includes two types of seating areas to meet the diverse needs of BART customers.

Where does BART get its electricity? ›

BART trains are 100% electric, with over 97% of that power coming from zero and low-carbon sources including solar and hydro energy.

What happens to retired train cars? ›

BART staff removes parts and components that can still have utility before sending the vehicle to the scrap yard. Hazardous materials are also removed and disposed of.

How fast does the BART go underwater? ›

During peak commute times, over 28,000 passengers per hour travel through the tunnel with headways as short as 2.5 minutes. BART trains can reach their highest speeds in the tube, up to 80 miles per hour (129 km/h), although trains typically operate at 70 miles per hour (113 km/h) unless trying to recover from a delay.

How fast does BART go mph? ›

The size of BART's fleet will be dynamic while new trains are put into service and old trains are retired. BART has 8 DMU train cars which each have a seating capacity of 104. 70 mph maximum; 35 mph average, including 20-second station stops. For BART to Antioch DMU trains, the maximum speed is 75 mph; 60 mph average.

Why is BART only running 6 car trains? ›

Why can't all trains be 10 car trains? A: In 2023, BART began running shorter trains to to improve safety, allow for a cleaner fleet of cars, and maximize BART's scarce resources. This move also helped us retire the legacy fleet and run only new trains for the base schedule.

How many new BART cars are in service? ›

On September 11, 2023, BART began to run only new cars for the base schedule, marking a historic moment for the new fleet. All 55 trains in service are made up of new cars. On March 4, 2024, BART removed the last of the legacy cars from the Ready Reserve Fleet.

How will one move save BART $12 million a year? ›

BART will realize cost savings and efficiency gains through this change. BART is expected to save about $12 million annually through reduced power consumption and cars logging fewer operating hours.

Is BART making money? ›

This means BART is not getting nearly as much revenue. BART says lower ridership, increasing labor costs, and declining sales tax revenues are straining BART finances. The transit agency also expects to run out of $1.9 billion dollars in federal and state assistance by April 2026.

Does BART own a factory? ›

Meanwhile, Bart buys an abandoned factory for a dollar at a foreclosure auction while wandering Springfield Town Hall as Marge is there trying to buy a personalized license plate. He and Milhouse spend their days wrecking the factory building and the abandoned equipment and waste therein.

How much does a BART car cost? ›

The 290 new Bombardier cars that have arrived so far cost between $1.7 million and $2 million each and are also suffering flat wheels at a far higher rate than the system's legacy cars. As a result BART has halted delivery of additional cars for at least three to six months until the problems are fixed.

Why are there so many abandoned train cars? ›

Reasons for abandonment

Railways specially built for mines or other industrial or logistical sites are abandoned if the mine is exhausted or the production ceases. War can also lead to abandonment.

What is the lifespan of a train car? ›

The quick answer is 30-50 years in the United States. Indeed, some railroad cars can rack up some fairly impressive lifespans, but there is a catch. Generally speaking, a railroad can maintain and operate a piece of equipment for as long as it sees fit, but it may be subject to rules and limitations.

How much does a retired train car cost? ›

The cost also depends on the train car's brand, model, and year. On average, a train car costs between $100,000 and $200,000. Some train cars may cost more or less than this depending on the factors mentioned above.

Will the R211 replace the R46? ›

The first R211 subway cars were put into service on the A subway line in March 2023. Credit: Marc A Hermann/MTA. The R211 cars will replace the R46 cars of the NYCT and the fleet of Staten Island Railway (SIR).

Is BART or driving faster? ›

Taking BART, he noted, is also faster than driving the highly trafficked highways into San Francisco. “Being on BART makes me feel relieved. It's way more stressful driving,” he said. “It's tough commuting this far, but public transit makes it more manageable.”

What is the acceleration of the BART train? ›

The top speed is 80 mph. BART trains have 6 performance levels that dictate the acceleration rate and speeds for each speed code. BART's default is PL2 which 3mph per second acceleration and a top speed of 70mph.

What percentage of BART trains are new? ›

All 55 trains in service are made up of new cars. On March 4, 2024, BART removed the last of the legacy cars from the Ready Reserve Fleet.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Duncan Muller

Last Updated:

Views: 6582

Rating: 4.9 / 5 (59 voted)

Reviews: 90% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Duncan Muller

Birthday: 1997-01-13

Address: Apt. 505 914 Phillip Crossroad, O'Konborough, NV 62411

Phone: +8555305800947

Job: Construction Agent

Hobby: Shopping, Table tennis, Snowboarding, Rafting, Motor sports, Homebrewing, Taxidermy

Introduction: My name is Duncan Muller, I am a enchanting, good, gentle, modern, tasty, nice, elegant person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.