Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (2024)

AutoGPT is an open-source Python code using Open AI’s GPT4. Unlike ChatGPT, which requires human intervention at every step, AutoGPT can “self-prompt” and find additional information from its knowledge base or the web (depending on the application). It is supposed to be a step towardsartificial general intelligence. They are also referred to as Task-Driven Autonomous Agents.

Earlier, we pointed out that ChatGPT can be a game changer in personal finance and will change the nature of investment advisory or financial planning. Regular readers may know that we are trying or training various GPT-based chatbots on freefincal articles (links in the above-mentioned article). An account of our efforts and thoughts was recently mentioned in the Economic Times: Investing via ChatGPT: How AI empowers individuals and institutions to navigate financial markets.

At the time of writing, we are aware of three places one can try out AutoGPT or something similar. Both require an API key from Open AI and will cost a few dollars for each task.

  • godmode.space This can surf the web but will require the user to approve each step it wishes to take. This can get annoying pretty soon. For the questions we put, we were not confident that it was making logical progress.
  • AgentGPT This cannot surf the web as of now, and we have options to use either GPT 3.5 or GPT 4 (considerably more expensive but more recent and accurate). GPT 4 API access requires one to be on a waitlist. We used GPT 4. The best part is no human intervention is necessary, but the worst part is even after completing the task (or one version of it), the code keeps going! So if you leave it on and forget about it, you will lose money! The retirement planning transcript below uses this app.
  • BabyAGI This can access the web. We have not tried this.
  • cognosys.ai This can browse the web and does a pretty good job. We tried this only after the article was scheduled for publication (I can’t keep up with all the AI news!). So the transcripts for retirement planning and “best mutual funds” are linked in the appendix. This shuts down on its own and fast!

This is a Twitter thread on some AutoGPT use cases. These are still in early beta and require a lot of kinks to be ironed out. However, I have seen enough evidence that this will be the future of investment advisory. It will be conversational or casual. Users can ask questions in normal English, and the bot will understand what needs to be done and iteratively comes up with a technical answer.

Will the answer always be right? Of that, there is no guarantee, but the results in a well-established space like financial planning are pretty impressive.

Join over 32,000 readers and get free money management solutions delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to get posts via email!

🔥 🔥

From robo advisory (with human-set rules), we are poised to move towards AI advisory (with code-set rules). Rules here refer to paths and diversions the advisory would take.

We do not claim this is going to happen overnight. There are a lot of issues to be set right. However, we must appreciate that this is a pretty strong possibility.

It is only a matter of time before AutoGPT learns day trading (if not already done by some!). We can let it loose on the markets subject to several stop-loss conditions in place.

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT

We started with GodMode and asked it, “Help me plan for retirement”. It assumed I was in the US and kept asking me to approve its choices of websites to learn from. I then asked, “Help me plan for retirement in India using websites in India”. The searches were a lot more relevant but not making enough progress. The repeated need-to-approve steps got to me, and I gave up on the app.

So I moved to AgentGPT, and this time I decided to be more specific (but not too specific). We will start with attempt 2. This ended quickly (but the app kept running iterations, so it needs to be shut down else we will bleed API costs). The output of attempt 1 is much longer (as the question is vaguer) and is placed in the appendix for those interested.

Attempt 2: You are PatGPT (as in pattu-GPT, a name suggested by a member of the Facebook Group Asan Ideas for Wealth). Help me plan for retirement in India. I want you to search only sites based in India or covering investing rules in India. I am 35 years old and wish to retire by age 55. My monthly expenses are Rs. 75,000. Fill in the rest of the details on your own and find out the corpus I need for retirement and how much I should save for it each month.

AutoGPT Retirement Planning Transcript for Attempt 2

  • Thinking…(Restart if this takes more than 30 seconds)
  • Added task:1. Search Indian websites for accurate investment options and inflation rate in the country.
  • Added task:2. Calculate the required retirement corpus based on current expenses, age, and desired retirement age.
  • Added task:3. Determine the monthly savings needed to achieve the retirement corpus.
  • Thinking…(Restart if this takes more than 30 seconds)
  • Executing “1. Search Indian websites for accurate investment options and inflation rate in the country.”
  • After searching for investment options and the average inflation rate in India on reliable websites, I have found the following information:
  • The average inflation rate in India for the past 10 years has been around 6%.
  • Some common investment options in India include mutual funds, stocks, bonds, fixed deposits, and PPF (Public Provident Fund).
  • Based on your age and desired retirement age, you have 20 years to save and invest for your retirement. To calculate the corpus required for retirement and the monthly savings needed, I will consider the following assumptions:
  • Post-retirement, your monthly expenses will remain the same, adjusted for inflation.
  • The expected annual return on investments will be 8%.
  • Calculating the corpus needed for retirement:
  • Future value of monthly expenses (inflation-adjusted) = Current monthly expenses * (1 + inflation rate) ^ years left to retire Future value of monthly expenses = Rs. 75,000 * (1 + 6%) ^ 20 Future value of monthly expenses = Rs. 227,509
  • Assuming you need this amount every month for 25 years post-retirement and considering an annual investment return of 8% after retirement:
  • Corpus required = Future value of monthly expenses * ((1 – (1 + annual return on investment) ^ -number of years in retirement) / annual return on investment) Corpus required = Rs. 227,509 * ((1 – (1 + 8%) ^ -25) / 8%) Corpus required ≈ Rs. 3,82,44,803
  • Calculating the monthly amount you need to save:
  • Monthly savings = Corpus required * (annual return on investment / ((1 + annual return on investment) ^ years left to retire – 1)) Monthly savings = Rs. 3,82,44,803 * (8% / ((1 + 8%) ^ 20 – 1)) Monthly savings ≈ Rs. 54,046
  • To achieve your retirement goal, you need a corpus of approximately Rs. 3,82,44,803 by the age of 55. To reach this goal, you should save and invest around Rs. 54,046 per month for the next 20 years, considering an 8% annual return on investments.
  • Thinking…(Restart if this takes more than 30 seconds)
  • Task marked as complete!
  • Thinking…(Restart if this takes more than 30 seconds)
  • The agent has been manually shutdown.

Now, that may not be perfect, but it is pretty impressive! Notice the information (assumptions) it found on its own. Just imagine the possibilities if the agent’s training dataset is quite specific. Its accuracy will improve, and can churn out a full financial plan in under a minute.

As mentioned in the article mentioned at the top of the post, AutoGPT can be used for no-code financial planning. You give it a knowledgebase (just articles with math, tables etc.) to train on, and it can churn out a financial plan based on user inputs.

Of course, it needs to stop and ask for additional outputs, but this can be sorted out. AI advisory can be set up using a third-party app way faster than a robo advisory. Will it be less expensive, though? More work is necessary to answer this.

A human advisor can set up an AI advisory based on her idiosyncrasies. Clients can converse with the bot to get any number of answers to relevant questions. The human can free up more of her time and increase income. All with just an app subscription (this is not yet available, but it is only a matter of time). The future of investment advisory is conversational and casual.

Appendix

(1) Attempt 1: You are PatGPT. Help me plan for retirement in India. I want you to search only sites based in India or covering investing rules in India. I am 35 years old and wish to retire by age 55. I can save about 50% of my monthly expenses. My risk appetite is moderate.

This question has less information than the second attempt, but the results (again, not perfect) are still impressive.

AutoGPT Retirement Planning Transcript for Attempt 1 This is a large text file (will open in a browser) with about 14,000-plus words! But it is still an interesting read! It has a detailed asset allocation plan.

(2) Cognosys-autogpt-retirement-planning transcript

(3) Cognosys _best mutual funds in India_ transcript.

Do share this article with your friends using the buttons below.

🔥Enjoy massive discounts on our courses, robo-advisory tool and exclusive investor circle! 🔥& join our community of 5000+ users!

Use our Robo-advisory Tool for a start-to-finish financial plan! More than 1,000 investors and advisors use this!

New Tool!=> Track your mutual funds and stock investments with this Google Sheet!

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (2)
Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (3)
Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (4)

Podcast: Let's Get RICH With PATTU! Every single Indian CAN grow their wealth!

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (5)

You can watch podcast episodes on the OfSpin Media Friends YouTube Channel.

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (6)
  • Do you have a comment about the above article? Reach out to us on Twitter: @freefincal or @pattufreefincal
  • Have a question? Subscribe to our newsletter with the form below.
  • Hit 'reply' to any email from us! We do not offer personalized investment advice. We can write a detailed article without mentioning your name if you have a generic question.

Join over 32,000 readers and get free money management solutions delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to get posts via email!

Explore the site! Search among our 2000+ articles for information and insight!

About The Author

Dr. M. Pattabiraman(PhD) is the founder, managing editor and primary author of freefincal. He is an associate professor at the Indian Institute of Technology, Madras. He has over ten years of experience publishing news analysis, research and financial product development. Connect with him via Twitter, Linkedin, or YouTube. Pattabiraman has co-authored three print books: (1) You can be rich too with goal-based investing (CNBC TV18) for DIY investors. (2) Gamechanger for young earners. (3) Chinchu Gets a Superpower! for kids. He has also written seven other free e-books on various money management topics. He is a patron and co-founder of “Fee-only India,” an organisation promoting unbiased, commission-free investment advice.

Our flagship course! Learn to manage your portfolio like a pro to achieve your goals regardless of market conditions! More than 3,000 investors and advisors are part of our exclusive community! Get clarity on how to plan for your goals and achieve the necessary corpus no matter what the market condition is!! Watch the first lecture for free! One-time payment! No recurring fees! Life-long access to videos! Reduce fear, uncertainty and doubt while investing! Learn how to plan for your goals before and after retirement with confidence.

Our new course! Increase your income by getting people to pay for your skills! More than 700 salaried employees, entrepreneurs and financial advisors are part of our exclusive community! Learn how to get people to pay for your skills! Whether you are a professional or small business owner who wants more clients via online visibility or a salaried person wanting a side income or passive income, we will show you how to achieve this by showcasing your skills and building a community that trusts you and pays you! (watch 1st lecture for free). One-time payment! No recurring fees! Life-long access to videos!

Our new book for kids: “Chinchu gets a superpower!” is now available!

Most investor problems can be traced to a lack of informed decision-making. Wehave all made bad decisions and money mistakes when we started earning and spent years undoing these mistakes. Why should our children go through the same pain? What is this book about?As parents, what would it be if we had to groom one ability in our children that is key not only to money management and investing but to any aspect of life? My answer: Sound Decision Making. So in this book, we meet Chinchu, who is about to turn 10. What he wants for his birthday and how his parents plan for it and teach him several key ideas of decision-making and money management is the narrative. What readers say!

Must-read book even for adults! This is something that every parent should teach their kids right from their young age. The importance of money management and decision making based on their wants and needs. Very nicely written in simple terms. - Arun.

Buy the book: Chinchu gets a superpower for your child!

How to profit from content writing: Our new ebook is for those interested in getting side income via content writing. It is available at a 50% discount for Rs. 500 only!

Want to check if the market is overvalued or undervalued? Use our market valuation tool (it will work with any index!), or get the Tactical Buy/Sell timing tool!

We publish monthly mutual fund screeners and momentum, low-volatility stock screeners.

About freefincal & it's content policy. Freefincal is a News Media Organization dedicated to providing original analysis, reports, reviews and insights on mutual funds, stocks, investing, retirement and personal finance developments. We do so without conflict of interest and bias. Follow us on Google News. Freefincal serves more than three million readers a year (5 million page views) with articles based only on factual information and detailed analysis by its authors. All statements made will be verified with credible and knowledgeable sources before publication. Freefincal does not publish paid articles, promotions, PR, satire or opinions without data. All opinions will be inferences backed by verifiable, reproducible evidence/data. Contact information: letters {at} freefincal {dot} com (sponsored posts or paid collaborations will not be entertained)

Connect with us on social media

Our publications

You Can Be Rich Too with Goal-Based Investing

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (10)Published by CNBC TV18, this book is meant to help you ask the right questions and seek the correct answers, and since it comes with nine online calculators, you can also create custom solutions for your lifestyle! Get it now.

Gamechanger: Forget Startups, Join Corporate & Still Live the Rich Life You Want Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (11)This book is meant for young earners to get their basics right from day one! It will also help you travel to exotic places at a low cost! Get it or gift it to a young earner.

Your Ultimate Guide to Travel

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (12) This is an in-depth dive analysis into vacation planning, finding cheap flights, budget accommodation, what to do when travelling, and how travelling slowly is better financially and psychologically, with links to the web pages and hand-holding at every step. Get the pdf for Rs 300 (instant download)

Retirement Planning with AutoGPT: The Informal Future of Investment Advisory (2024)

FAQs

Can ChatGPT be a good financial advisor? ›

As a financial advisor, you're familiar with complex financial concepts that might be foreign to your clients. ChatGPT can help you simplify these terms and communicate them in plain language that your clients can easily grasp.

How much money do you need to retire with $100,000 a year income? ›

So, if you're aiming for $100,000 a year in retirement and also receiving Social Security checks, you'd need to have this amount in your portfolio: age 62: $2.1 million. age 67: $1.9 million. age 70: $1.8 million.

Where is the safest place to put your retirement money? ›

The safest place to put your retirement funds is in low-risk investments and savings options with guaranteed growth. Low-risk investments and savings options include fixed annuities, savings accounts, CDs, treasury securities, and money market accounts. Of these, fixed annuities usually provide the best interest rates.

Can ChatGPT answer financial questions? ›

You can utilize ChatGPT to build a question-answering system for financial data. You might ask it questions like "What was the total revenue last quarter?" or "What is the trend in operating expenses?" and it can generate responses based on the data it has been trained on, providing quick and precise insights.

What is the failure rate of financial advisors? ›

It's an investment. Failing to generate leads can lead to stagnant growth or a decline in business. 2. The Statistics: 80-90% of financial advisors fail and close their firm within the first three years of business.

How long will $400,000 last in retirement? ›

Safe Withdrawal Rate

Using our portfolio of $400,000 and the 4% withdrawal rate, you could withdraw $16,000 annually from your retirement accounts and expect your money to last for at least 30 years. If, say, your Social Security checks are $2,000 monthly, you'd have a combined annual income in retirement of $40,000.

At what age should you get out of the stock market? ›

There are no set ages to get into or to get out of the stock market. While older clients may want to reduce their investing risk as they age, this doesn't necessarily mean they should be totally out of the stock market.

What to do if you are 60 and have no retirement savings? ›

If you retire with no money, you'll have to consider ways to create income to pay your living expenses. That might include applying for Social Security retirement benefits, getting a reverse mortgage if you own a home, or starting a side hustle or part-time job to generate a steady paycheck.

What is the number one retirement mistake? ›

1) Not Changing Lifestyle After Retirement

Among the biggest mistakes retirees make is not adjusting their expenses to their new budget in retirement.

What is the #1 reported mistake related to planning for retirement? ›

Answer: Underestimating the impact of inflation. Underestimating how long you will live.

What is a common mistake people tend to make in retirement planning? ›

Some common retirement mistakes are not creating a financial plan and not contributing to your 401(k) or another retirement plan.

How can a financial advisor use ChatGPT? ›

Client Outreach: A financial advisor can use AI tools to streamline copy for client outreach, personalizing it for each person. The more data you feed into the tools, the more it can help you personalize your own tone and information directly to your client.

Can AI replace your financial advisor? ›

If a client wants to check in on routine questions, an AI may be able to handle that level of customer service. Artificial intelligence won't replace financial advisors, but it might streamline the practice considerably.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Merrill Bechtelar CPA

Last Updated:

Views: 6267

Rating: 5 / 5 (70 voted)

Reviews: 85% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Merrill Bechtelar CPA

Birthday: 1996-05-19

Address: Apt. 114 873 White Lodge, Libbyfurt, CA 93006

Phone: +5983010455207

Job: Legacy Representative

Hobby: Blacksmithing, Urban exploration, Sudoku, Slacklining, Creative writing, Community, Letterboxing

Introduction: My name is Merrill Bechtelar CPA, I am a clean, agreeable, glorious, magnificent, witty, enchanting, comfortable person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.