Thor: Odin Isn't Just a Bad Dad, He's the MCU's Most Overlooked Villain (2024)

The Marvel Cinematic Universe has produced many iconic characters and villains, many of which are more complicated than simply good or bad. As Loki explains in his Disney+ series, "No one bad is ever truly bad. And no one good is ever truly good." The second part of that statement expertly describes his adoptive father, Odin, who is arguably the MCU's most overlooked villain.

Introduced in Thor, Odin actually doesn't appear onscreen much during the runtime of the MCU, but the amount of damage he causes in that time is astronomical. To start things off, for some inexplicable reason, Odin left the Tesseract on Earth to be stowed and virtually unprotected by mere humans. That left the containment vessel for the Space Stone vulnerable; it was (much later) easily attained by the Red Skull and Hydra. Not only did the Red Skull use the Tesseract to murder countless people, but he also killed countless others in pursuit of the treasure. In other words, Odin used those people as sacrificial pawns for no discernible reason.

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Odin Is a Conqueror of Worlds and a Terrible Father

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Then there's the fact that he's a conqueror. Played by Anthony Hopkins, Odin is the King of the Nine Realms only because he seized them by force. He was not a benevolent leader but a ruthless tyrant, and on his crusade, he brought with him his eldest child, Hela (Cate Blanchett), who served as his commander and executioner. He used her in his pursuit of power and then banished her for doing exactly what he conditioned her to do. When her ambition outgrew his, instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he locked her away.

He's not only a terrible father to Hela but to his sons as well. First, he raises Thor (Chris Hemsworth) to be a warrior king, and then he becomes angry and disappointed when his son grows up to be just that. Moreover, Odin's banishment of Thor is at least as brash as his son's initial charge into Jotunheim. Thor's decision was arguably better thought out than Odin's punishment because he at least consulted with others first. Conversely, Odin made his decision on instinct and actively chose to ignore the input of Loki (Tom Hiddleston) when he tried to interject on Thor's behalf.

That then leads to the simply unforgivable way Odin raised Loki. He told Loki all his life that he was born to be a king but didn't actually explain anything about his heritage and, therefore, fostered an environment of jealousy and competitiveness between his sons. Loki's true origin should not have been kept from him, especially when it clearly influenced the way Odin treated his adoptive son. Loki's insecurities and bad decisions are directly linked to Odin's terrible parenting.

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In Thor, Loki let the Frost Giants into Asgard to mess with his brother because Odin created animosity between the siblings. Then Loki confronted Odin about his hidden parentage and saw himself as a monster, which exacerbated his already-vulnerable state. Odin's reaction to that understandable rage is to fall into the Odinsleep instead of facing the consequences of his actions. In doing so, he gives the throne to Loki when he's at his most angry and vengeful.

Odin Is Responsible for Loki's Turn From Trickster to Villain

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That leads to Loki creating an over-the-top scheme to destroy the Frost Giants and prove himself the rightful king of Asgard. In his final showdown with the newly returned Thor, Loki actually admits that he never wanted the throne; he just wanted to be Thor's equal. If Odin was a better father, then Loki could have felt equal to Thor, and this standoff might never have happened.

If this were the case, Loki wouldn't have ended up hanging off the edge of the Rainbow Bridge, which is where Odin doubles down on his atrocious parenting and rejects Loki's desperate plea for approval. That's the reason Loki lets go and falls through space, only to then team up with Thanos and launch his assaults on Midgard, culminating in the Battle of New York. So really, Odin is the big bad behind Loki in The Avengers, even more so than Thanos.

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Odin Responds to Grief With Revenge, at Any Cost

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That brings us to Odin's dismal behavior in Thor: The Dark World. An alternate deleted scene shows him just standing by and allowing Malekith to kill Frigga (Rene Russo) instead of surrendering the Aether. He puts down his weapon right after Frigga begs him to kill Malekith. There is something to be said about protecting the Infinity Stone, but after spending so much of his life as a warrior king, this is a bizarre time to choose a passive resolve. Thor leaps into the scene ready to fight for his mother, although he's tragically too late to do so. Odin has no such excuse.

That scene was scrapped. However, Odin's canonical onscreen behavior is little better. His reaction to Frigga's death is revenge against Malekith, with little regard for how many of Asgard's warriors it may cost. He continues to be a bad father in keeping Loki prisoner and not even allowing him to attend Frigga's funeral. Odin also refuses to listen to Thor's plan to go after Malekith and instead wastes time and resources to his own detriment. So he's not just a bad father but a bad leader as well.

Odin's Lifetime of Brash Decisions Ultimately Leads to Ragnarok

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In Thor: Ragnarok, Odin is dying when Loki and Thor catch up to him. He finally tells his sons that he loves them sincerely, the same sons he's banished, lied to and imprisoned at various times. The moment is a noticeable shock to Loki, which is a pretty clear symbol that he's a bad father. On his deathbed, Odin suddenly gets all warm and New Age-y as he explains that Asgard is a people, not a place.

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Only then does Odin admit that Hela is coming to seek power and revenge because he, inexplicably, tied her banishment to his own lifeforce; when he dies, she is automatically released from her prison. That makes his mistakes someone else's problem in the most destructive way possible. His delay gives the brothers, and all of Asgard, no chance to prepare for Hela's arrival and, therefore, the only way to defeat her is to allow Ragnarok to unfold, which results in the deaths of nearly 10,000 Asgardians.

Odin is a terrible king, a thoughtless husband, and an even worse father. His actions and behavior cause more death and destruction than nearly any other MCU villain, and he's supposed to be one of the good guys.

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Is Odin a bad father in MCU? ›

Odin Is a Conqueror of Worlds and a Terrible Father

He used her in his pursuit of power and then banished her for doing exactly what he conditioned her to do. When her ambition outgrew his, instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he locked her away.

Why Odin is not a good father? ›

He is a bit of a dead-beat dad and has fathered many kids (he admits to Spider-Man he has thousands of daughters scattered throughout the centuries), he tends to punish his kids harshly, and when it comes to Thor he is willing to walk over them just to get the opportunity to crush his brother... But he can also be a ...

Is Odin a bad guy in MCU? ›

To say that Odin isn't the most moral character in the MCU is putting it mildly; in fact, recent events in Loki suggest he's just as bad as Thanos. As the ruler of Asgard, Odin took a more Machiavellian approach to power than his firstborn son and successor, Thor.

Why Odin is the real villain? ›

Odin was deceitful, manipulative, and as willing to sacrifice others to win as he was his own eye for wisdom. Interesting fact, you would think that Norse outlaws, thieves, brigands, murderours, and the like would pray to Loki the Trickster, but you would be wrong.

Why does Loki hate Odin? ›

Loki says that Odin does a poor job in handing out honor in war to men, and that he's often given victory to the faint-hearted.

How did Loki replace Odin? ›

After faking his death, Loki cast a spell on Odin, banishing him to New York City while masquerading as Odin and ruling Asgard himself. While he had eventually recovered from the spell placed on him by Loki, Odin chose to remain in exile in Norway and would ultimately reach the end of his extremely long life.

Who is Odin afraid of? ›

It is also implied that he has an intense fear of Kratos as well, as he knows nothing about him except for the fact that he's extremely powerful and having fought and killed one of his sons, Baldur and his two grandsons, Magni and Modi in battle.

Is Zeus as bad as Odin? ›

They're both really bad but Zeus had the excuse of being corrupted and was under the influence of Pandora's box which made him act the way he did while Odin was always selfish and manipulative on his own naturally.

Did Odin love Thor? ›

As he tends to his son, Odin confesses that he has always tried to prevent Thor's prophesied death by the Serpent, not to prevent Ragnarok, but because he loves his son and does not want to see him perish.

Can Odin beat Thanos MCU? ›

Portrayed by Anthony Hopkins, Odin is the powerful ruler of the Nine Realms who has sworn to protect every kingdom under his rule. With Odin still ruling Asgard, Thanos would have easily been stopped had he made a play for the Infinity Gauntlet.

Is Zeus stronger than Odin in MCU? ›

While Zeus is by no means a pushover, unless he has some immensely powerful tricks up his sleeve in Thor: Love and Thunder, it appears that the MCU's Odin is still the strongest god on the cosmic block.

Is Odin weak in MCU? ›

Though Odin's comparatively meager powers in the MCU could be put down to too few opportunities for him to shine through, the way in which he was outmaneuvered and overpowered by the dark elves and Loki is particularly egregious.

Why does Freya hate Odin? ›

Eventually, Freya would break off her marriage to Odin due to his cruelty, and Norse Gods becoming violent, notably Thor killing giants mercilessly. Angered that the marriage was broken, he cursed the goddess to never be able to leave Midgard or harming any living creature.

Who would win, Zeus or Odin? ›

So while Zeus' best feat is defeating a mountain-sized monster, Odin's best feat is defeating a monster as big as nine worlds. Odin outclasses Zeus in intelligence, versatility, strength, and weapons. Zeus simply can't compete. The winner is Odin, All-Father of the Æsir.

Why is Odin afraid of Kratos? ›

Meeting with the Ghost of Sparta

Three years after the beginning of Fimbulwinter, Odin showed up in the flesh with Thor to negotiate a status quo with Kratos and Atreus, secretly fearing what he considered to be a threat to his power.

Is Odin really a bad guy in god of war Ragnarok? ›

Odin is a cruel, heartless, sad*stic and barbaric God (similar to Zeus), as proven by having tortured Mimir and took his left eye to hidden within the Statue of Thor during his imprisonment every day.

Who is Odin's father in MCU? ›

Bor Burison was the former King of Asgard, son of Buri, father of Odin, grandfather of Hela and Thor and adoptive grandfather of Loki.

Why is Odin called Allfather in MCU? ›

Later Surtur was imprisoned inside the Earth. Odin thereafter became ruler of Asgard, where he received the epithet of All-Father, and eventually fell in love with the elder goddess, Gaea, by whom he is the father of Thor. After Thor's birth, Odin returns to Asgard, where his wife, Frigga, acts as Thor's mother.

Is Odin actually Thor's father? ›

While Thor is Odin's son, they don't always agree and Odin occasionally punishes Thor for his love of Earth, which takes him away from his duties on Asgard.

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