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singlemum2013 · 22/01/2015 20:30

I tried making custard for DD's pudding tonight and I used Bird's custard powder (the traditional one not the instant). I have an electric ceramic hob and I used a small non-stick milk pan. I stirred the mixture for 30 minutes and it came to a boil but I gave up hope of it setting and we just ate it runny!!! Also it burnt and stuck on the bottom of the non-stick pan!!! I'm not usually so hopeless at cooking. Anyone here have any advice on how to set the custard?

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UsernamesSoHardToChoose · 22/01/2015 20:33

Think you have to add more powder and let it cool to make it set

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CMOTDibbler · 22/01/2015 20:34

I make it in the microwave. Heat the milk to near boiling, add the powder and sugar (mixed up with a little milk) then heat again.

If you want solid custard you need to let it cool and use more powder than the instructions - the box instructions are for runny custard

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FunkyPeaco*ck · 22/01/2015 20:35

Do you mean thicken rather than set?

Custard doesn't normally set unless it is left to go cold. I normally mix the custard powder & sugar in a jug with a small amount of milk and warm up the rest of the milk in a pan. When the milk is hot (but not bubbling) I pour it into the jug and whisk it up quickly. I then usually pour the whole lot back into the pan and heat gently til it thickens.

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ShatnersBassoon · 22/01/2015 20:35

Birds instructions on the tin will give you a pouring custard. I don't know if you should increase the powder to thicken it or if that would make it too powdery in texture. You'll have to make real custard with eggs to get a proper set.

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mamababa · 22/01/2015 20:38

Yep, not enough powder. To be thick for a trifle etc you need at least double what it says on the instructions. Then let it got cold to be like a jelly.

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LL0015 · 22/01/2015 20:43

Check the date on the custard powder.... could well be out of date! Especially if you are certain of your quantities

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Summerisle1 · 22/01/2015 20:45

Custard is supposed to be runny! Or at least the box instructions on Birds Custard suppose this to be the case. If you want it to set - i.e. suitable for a trifle - then ideally you need to make it fresh or buy ready made chilled custard.

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ChippyMinton · 22/01/2015 20:46

You need more powder and sugar for a thicker custard. If you want to add more, mix it with cold milk first, before whisking in to the cooking custard

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CatsClaus · 22/01/2015 20:49

you need at least three tablespoons for half a pint of milk to get thick custard, I really do not know what they are thinking with the packet instruction of 2 tbs to a pint.

idiots.

and for it to set it'll need to get cold.

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westcountrywoman · 22/01/2015 20:50

The instruction on the Bird's tin are for a very runny pouring custard. Use more powder and sugar if you want it more like a tinned custard.

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MrsHathaway · 22/01/2015 20:53

Stand aside, people who know how to cook real custard.

To make Bird's set, you need only what the tin says, but yes you need to let it cool.a bit. The microwave method reduces stress and mess.

For half a pint of custard (ie a couple of helpings), put half a pint of milk in a two-pint jug, then add 1tbsp each of custard powder and sugar. Mix with a fork.

Microwave for one minute, stir with fork. Do this four times. It should suddenly magically turn into custard in the fourth minute.

If you leave it for a bit, it will form a skin. If you chill it (eg on top of a trifle) it will go sliceably solid.

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Limer · 22/01/2015 20:54

Did you eat it hot or cold?

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MrsHathaway · 22/01/2015 20:54

That said, I probably heap my tablespoons.

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emotionsecho · 22/01/2015 20:59

When you say set, how set do you mean?

If you used the custard powder from the drum, best to mix the powder into a paste with a little milk beforehand, then warm the milk pour onto the powder, stir, then put back into the pan and bring to the boil stirring all the time then it should thicken. Make sure you have enough powder to milk ratio then it should thicken ok.

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OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 22/01/2015 21:00

I used birds custard to make trifle at Christmas. Unless I misunderstood the instructions, I used 1.5 times the amount it said and it was like concrete when it cooled. I made it in the microwave as I always burn it if on the hob.

If I'd had time I would have done it again with a bit less, but I didn't so I just had to give it a right good stir to break it up a bit. It was still a good trifle but it would have been better with the custard not quite so thick.

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addictedtosugar · 22/01/2015 21:00

you can make it in the microwave, al la MrsHatherway. So long as you don't let it boil over, its low on the mess.
But yes, I'd add more powder than the instructions (and microwave!)

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singlemum2013 · 22/01/2015 21:02

CMOTDibbler - I don't have a microwave, so have to do the pan on hob method.
LL0015 - Brand new tin! Best before June 2015! Thanks.
FunkyPeaco*ck - Yes indeed I mean thicken not set, sorry folks.
CatsClaus - Thank you - I will try 3tbs to 1/2 pint.
Everyone else - thank you for all your replies, looking forward to thick custard next time...

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Trills · 22/01/2015 21:06

It thickens on standing.

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LL0015 · 22/01/2015 21:06

At chez LL...
two highly heaped tbsp of birds to one pint makes a suitably thick custard.
with two rounded tbsp of sugar

Yum
Microwave or hob, either way, remove lumps in a splash of milk first before adding rest of milk and use a whisk.

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bigbluebus · 22/01/2015 21:21

I have made Birds custard on the hob loads of times and it always thickens as it starts t boil. Did you follow the instructions on the side of the tin OP? Sounds as though you didn't use enough powder. And you can get it to set if you let it cool. I have used it on a trifle without problem.

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Furball · 22/01/2015 21:29

I'm with you op

I did exactly the same, I measured it perfectly to try and get it right and it was sooo wrong.

Tried it again with a heaped spoon and it over tasted too much

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davelongdon1972 · 02/01/2016 20:08

Weigh the powder the tablespoon instruction is wrong

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Emkin · 08/07/2023 03:59

I made a half pint of Birds. It was a perfect semi solid custard consistency. Then I covered it so it wouldn't form a skin while cooling and left it on the counter till room temp.
When I returned to it to put it in the fridge a few hours later I removed the plastic covering and it had turned to a liquid!...Why? I usually do the same with Jello brand cooked pudding ( also based in cornstarch) but it doesn't turn to liquid after.

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To expect Bird's custard to set??? | Mumsnet? ›

Custard doesn't normally set unless it is left to go cold. I normally mix the custard powder & sugar in a jug with a small amount of milk and warm up the rest of the milk in a pan. When the milk is hot (but not bubbling) I pour it into the jug and whisk it up quickly.

Does bird's custard thicken as it cools? ›

It is slightly thicker after being refrigerated overnight, but the texture is not good... not lovely and smooth (as in the photo at Bird's web site), but soupy with clumps.

How long does it take for custard to set? ›

Place pie plate in a large shallow baking dish, and fill with boiling water to come halfway up side of pie plate. Place in oven and bake until custard is set, about 1 hour.

How long does bird trifle custard take to set? ›

1 Break each sponge finger into 4 pieces, place in a serving dish and cover with 2 tablespoons of cold semi-skimmed milk to soften. 2 Make custard and pour immediately over sponge fingers, cool completely. 3 Make whip and spread evenly over cooled custard, place in refrigerator for 10 minutes to set.

How to tell if custard is set? ›

Insert knife about 1 inch from the center of a one-dish custard; midway between center and edge of cups. If knife is clean when pulled out, the custard is done. If any custard clings to the blade, bake a few minutes longer and test again.

How to tell when bird custard is done? ›

It is not necessary to boil Bird's Custard® for any length of time - the instructions will tell you that once it reaches the boil, it is done. You should never boil Birds custard as it can burn on the bottom of the pan,as soon as it thickens stirring all the time on a low heat should be enough.

Why is my custard not hardening? ›

In order for a successful gelling of a starch in the recipe, the enzyme has to be killed by cooking the custard almost to boiling (a little less than 212 degrees F). Otherwise the left-over enzymes digest all of the nice firm starch gel and your custard is nothing but liquid.

Will custard set as it cools? ›

The custard will thicken though as it cools, so if you want a cold custard then please do look at the custard recipe in Nigella's Boozy British Trifle as this makes are relatively thick custard once it is chilled. For a thick, hot custard you need to add cornflour (cornstarch) as a thickener.

What to do with custard that won't set? ›

One way to combat a custard that will not set is to reboil it. If you thought your custard was thickening up, and then refrigerated it to let it set, only to find that it had thinned out, simply pour the custard base back into a pot and cook it more (via Crafty Baking).

How do you thicken runny bird custard? ›

I normally mix the custard powder & sugar in a jug with a small amount of milk and warm up the rest of the milk in a pan. When the milk is hot (but not bubbling) I pour it into the jug and whisk it up quickly. I then usually pour the whole lot back into the pan and heat gently til it thickens.

How do you make custard set faster? ›

Because if it's a stovetop custard like a creme anglaise you can chill it fast with an ice bath (put it in a bowl surrounded by ice and then stir stir stir until it cools down).

Can bird custard be reheated? ›

1. Add 1/4 pint of milk and 1/2 tbsp of sugar to a jug and heat in an 800W microwave for 1 minute. 2. Add the custard pod and whisk vigorously with a fork until dissolved, reheat in the microwave for a further 1 minute until thickened.

How can I get my custard to set? ›

You don't want the custard so cold that it sets and breaks up as you spread it. The easiest way to cool the custard is to put it into a large bowl in a sink of cold water. It will take about 15 minutes. If you want it to set, put it in the fridge for an hour.

Is birds custard real custard? ›

The powder was invented by Alfred Bird in 1837 because his wife, though she liked custard, was terribly allergic to eggs. Bird's custard powder is simply cornflour with some vanilla flavouring and colouring.

What temperature does custard set? ›

Generally, a fully cooked custard should not exceed 80 °C (~175 °F); it begins setting at 70 °C (~160 °F).

Does custard thicken when cooling? ›

The custard will thicken though as it cools, so if you want a cold custard then please do look at the custard recipe in Nigella's Boozy British Trifle as this makes are relatively thick custard once it is chilled. For a thick, hot custard you need to add cornflour (cornstarch) as a thickener.

Why is my instant custard not thickening? ›

Keep an eye on the heat when cooking the custard - too low and it won't thicken, too high and you'll have scrambled eggs.

Will runny custard set in the fridge? ›

SARAH SAYS: Pierce a piece of plastic wrap large enough to cover the custard, in about a dozen places with the tip of a sharp knife or a toothpick; place pierced plastic wrap directly onto surface and refrigerate to set.

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