Where does the term ‘five by five’ come from? I first heard it on ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’, but have since heard it in a military setting. The context on ‘Buffy’ is:
How are you doing?Five by five!
I take it to mean something like ‘fine’, ‘great’ or something similar. Does anyone know how it came to be?
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That's military jargon, though I've read it in an old CB operations guide. There are two scales to measure how well you are hearing someone on the radio: Strength and clarity of transmision. Since its a five-point scale, a signal of 'five by five' would be the optimum values. Something worse would be 'two by two' for instance.
So the comment of 'five by five' in this case would indicate that they were feeling in the optimum best of health.
Bryan1Oct-05-2004
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I first heard it in James Camerons' Aliens movie. The female transport pilot says the following during takoff,
"In the pipe, five by five."
It has since been used in the game StarCraft by Blizzard Entertainment. The pilots of the Human shuttle's are female and say this sometimes when you click on them.
Buffy was probably just using it because it became sort of a geek thing to say after the StarCraft inclusion.
Neil1Oct-06-2004
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all your base are belong to us!
speedwell2Oct-07-2004
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In Alien, Ferro, a dropship pilot, states "We're in the pipe, five by five."
This means in laymen's terms "We're on track and read you loud and clear."
It's usually a military term. There are 5 levels of reception, five being the best. People say stuff like: "Testing, testing, one two three four, five by five." (Or four by four, etc)
Michael2Jan-31-2006
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Brian and Michael have pretty much hit it on the head. Do note, however that I don't think it's necessarily military. It applies in all forms of radio communication. It is actually an officially documented expression for all licensed FCC radio communications, ham radio, aircraft communications, etc.
US Air Force lingo:
Q: What's your situation?
A: "five by five" or simply "5 by"
Meaning: in position and ready
JackalFeb-21-2006
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It refers to signal strength and clarity, both rated on a five point scale.
Bryan1Jun-30-2006
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The other commentators are correct about the 5 by 5 part. I do believe the, 'in the pipe' part refers to being in transit to land. I heard the term originally from Pilots referring to the visualisation produced by the client end of a TLS (Transponder Landing System). The TLS largely automates that landing process.
chris.krugerOct-17-2010
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"Five by five", also used in french for instance ("Cinq sur cinq"), just means that you receives clearly a transmission. It is also used when you want to say that you understand an order.
I heard this in many many movies. *
But THE quote with this expression is in Aliens (Alien 2) "We are in the pipe, five by five". And used after in Starcraft in reference to Aliens.
Yep, as mentioned above it's a radio comm phrase, but turned into slang (like everything else) by the military meaning something like "things are good"
When you answer a radio call you can report back how well you can understand the transmission. You use two ratings, both number from 1 to 5. The first number is the signal strength. The second number is the clarity (amount of static) aka (signal to noise ration).
So for a fair signal you might say 3x3, but if you can hear them loud and clear, then you say 5 by 5, or just 5by, or fiver or who knows what else since I was in.
GroundLimit Out. (not over and out, dunno where that came from ;)
GroundLimitJul-02-2013
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There's a lot of knowledge here. I was a 31L-wiring systems installer, "Cable Dawg", for the US Army Signal Corps. Best job I ever had. Signal is your way of exchanging information. It is measured by Strength and Clarity. Both are rated on a 1 (low) thru 5 (high) scale. 5 x 5 would be as good as it gets. Hoo-ah!
Yeah well it could also kean 55 years old...the bestest age, lol
user107401Nov-13-2018
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It comes from the early days of radio communications. The scale is 1-5. The first 5 means the signal strength is very good, and the second 5 means the signal clarity is excellent.
I was told if it won’t matter in five years, don’t waste five minutes worrying about it. In other words “chill”.
user107790Mar-27-2019
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“I understand you completely”
The term 5X5 is rooted in the communications within military forces through WWII to mean "I understand you perfectly." The first number represented the Signal Strength of a radio communication, and the second number represented the signal clarity on a scale from 1-5 -- 1 being the worst; 5 being the best.
It’s a military meaning. Communications rating from 1-5. 5 being great.
Bennie2014Jan-30-2023
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My Grandfather used to say it and he told me it was a status check. You still had 10 fingers, 10 toes, & 5 senses which added up to 25 which is also the resilt of 5x5.
user111895Mar-08-2023
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I was a CB radio enthusiast in the early 70s, the readability (comprehension of the spoken word) scale of the audio on CB was Zero (0) to Five (5).
the signal strength was on a scale of Zero (0) to Nine (9) so if you were a long distance away with a weak signa but your spoken words were clear the response could be reading you 3 (signal strength) by 5 (comprehension).
Tim BridsonNov-30-2023
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