vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (2024)

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By: Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT
June 7, 2019
Editors: Ryan Davey, PhD and Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT

vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (2)Following childbirth new mothers can feel distressed about the changes they see in their bodies. The majority of these changes go away naturally, but some changes can persist. One commonly held belief is that childbirth permanently stretches and thereby “loosens” the vagin*. Is a “loose vagin*” a common consequence of childbirth, and if so, is it treatable?

With the help of our Pelvic Floor Physiotherapist Katie, in this article I hope to give you a better understanding of vagin*l laxity following childbirth: its prevalence, causes, risk factors, and of course treatment options – including what you can do on your own to address vagin*l laxity (click here to skip ahead).

Can vagin*l birth really cause a “loose vagin*”?

For some women the answer appears to be yes. vagin*l delivery can result in persistent feelings of vagin*l laxity. This laxity can reduce vagin*l sensation during intercourse and diminish sexual satisfaction of both partners, which can in turn lead to decreased sexual self-esteem and a drop in sexual intimacy.

How common is this complaint in mothers?

vagin*l looseness is a subjective and self-reported sexual health concern. There are no objective measures of it, and so there are few good statistics on the prevalence of vagin*l laxity following vagin*l childbirth.

When it is investigated, vagin*l laxity is typically lumped in with other female sexual dysfunctions. One recent Australian study of FIRST-TIME mothers found that some form of female sexual dysfunction was reported in 58% of mothers ONE YEAR after childbirth (ref 1). The main complaints included insufficient lubrication, abnormal vagin*l sensation, vagin*l laxity, vagin*l tightness, pain with intercourse and incontinence during intercourse.

An earlier (but perhaps less reliable) survey of 25 to 45-year-old women with at least one vagin*l birth, reported that approximately half of women expressed concern over vagin*l looseness (ref 2). It has also been reported to be the most common physical concern discussed with OBGYNs after vagin*l childbirth (ref 3).

So vagin*l looseness appears to be a rather common complaint, or at the very least, a meaningful concern for many women following vagin*l birth.

How couldvagin*l birth cause vagin*l “looseness”? Am I at risk?

The walls of the vagin* contain an elastic muscle that is normally folded up, holding the vagin* closed tightly. During sexual arousal and childbirth hormones cause the muscle to relax. The vagin* is designed to be able to relax and re-tighten repeatedly, without any loss of tone or tissue elasticity. Accordingly, regular sexual activity does not loosen the vagin*. But there are limits to the elasticity of this muscle and associated tissues, and a few risk factors are known to contribute to chronic feelings of vagin*l looseness.

Risk factors that contribute to vagin*l laxity:

  1. Age. vagin*l laxity can occur naturally with aging in some women, the result of a gradual weakening and atrophy of the vagin*l muscles and tissues over time.
  2. Multiple vagin*l births. Evidence suggests that having multiple vagin*l deliveries can increase the chance of vagin*l fatigue and incomplete recovery of pre-pregnancy vagin*l tightness.
  3. Trauma during vagin*l childbirth or other event. This category includes damage to muscles of the pelvic floor which surround and help maintain the position and shape of the vagin*. Varying degrees of musculoskeletal trauma occur commonly with vagin*l delivery, and so this is likely to be a common occurrence.

So in broad terms, a young mother with an uncomplicated vagin*l delivery will usually fully recover vagin*l tightness within the first 6 months of having her first child. Whereas women having children later in life, having multiple vagin*l births, or having more significant injury during childbirth, are at a greater risk of experiencing chronic vagin*l laxity that lasts beyond the first 6-12 months.

vagin*l laxity, not prolapse

vagin*l looseness is a condition that is distinct from vagin*l prolapse, but can sometimes be confused with it. With vagin*l laxity the vagin*l tissue becomes loose or relaxed, and this is associated with feelings of reduced tightness. In contrast, with vagin*l prolapse, displacement of pelvic organs (such as the bladder, rectum, urethra or small bowel) pushes on the walls of the vagin* causing it to leave its normal position. This can manifest as sensations of “falling out”, and uncomfortable or painful intercourse.

Pelvic floor physiotherapy for vagin*l laxity

How might pelvic floor physiotherapy help increase vagin*l tightness?

Even without looking at the clinical evidence, it seems like a good bet to assume that pelvic floor physiotherapy in the form of exercise therapy could help with vagin*l looseness. Pelvic floor physiotherapy is a highly recommended non-invasive treatment for a wide variety of pelvic issues including incontinence, pelvic prolapse and pelvic pain. There is also a large body of literature supporting the effectiveness of physiotherapy treatments for a wide range of other musculoskeletal injuries, atrophies and deficiencies. So we might expect it to help with vagin*l laxity as well.

Indeed, it is common practice in the medical community to use targeted pelvic physiotherapy interventions, specifically pelvic exercise therapy like Kegel exercises, to help reduce feelings of vagin*l laxity.

Do Kegels tighten you?

Kegels and other exercises are often recommended to patients suffering from a variety of pelvic health concerns (although sometimes inappropriately) including women with complaints of having a “loose vagin*”. These exercises are not intended to tighten the muscles of the vagin* directly, instead, they may be used to help strengthen and tighten the pelvic floor muscles that surround the vagin*. This in turn may increase feelings of vagin*l tightness both at rest and when the woman voluntarily contracts her pelvic floor muscles.Below I’ll show you how you can get started on your own using Kegels to help decrease your feelings of vagin*l laxity. Click here to skip ahead.

It has also been suggested by clinical researchers that good pelvic floor muscle tone, strength and the ability to effectively contract these muscles, can improve vagin*l sensations during intercourse including feelings of tightness, org*smic response and the pleasure of both partners (refs 4,5,6). However, it’s still a pretty small field of research with small study sizes and simple study designs, and so it’s not surprising that there are also a few studies that offer contradictory results as well (refs 7,8). More research is needed.

So, although pelvic floor muscle strengthening exercises to treat vagin*l looseness makes good sense physiologically, is often recommended, and is supported by anecdotal evidence, clinical research evidence has been slow to accumulate.

What clinical evidence is there to support pelvic floor physiotherapy for treating vagin*l looseness?

As mentioned, there is not a large body of research in this field yet, however, the clinical studies that have been done are beginning to show promising results that pelvic floor physiotherapy can indeed help vagin*l looseness.

One such study published this year directly asked this question in first-time mothers – would pelvic floor physiotherapy help with symptoms of sexual dysfunction following childbirth (ref 9). In this study the researchers evaluated 175 first time mothers and gave them either pelvic floor physiotherapy or no treatment, between 6 weeks and 6 months postpartum, and then examined the differences in sexual function between the two groups.

Overall, women in the physiotherapy group had the same outcomes as the non-physiotherapy group – there was no difference in vagin*l symptoms or sexual dysfunction at 6 months postpartum between the groups as a whole. This is not surprising nor discouraging for the potential benefit of pelvic floor physiotherapy, as negative results are common in clinical trials of physiotherapy treatments. Sample sizes are often too small to show statistical differences when only a small percentage of study participants should be expected to have a condition that might benefit from physiotherapy. In other words, any positive effects experienced by the small sub group of patients that might benefit from the therapy is lost in the crowd. Pelvic floor physiotherapy is also not intended as a cure-all for all forms of sexual dysfunction, and sexual dysfunction is a hard subject to study.

Despite the challenges of this particular study, and the fact that it only evaluated first-time mothers, a subgroup of these study participants that had experienced trauma during childbirth to the levator ani muscle (a muscle of the pelvic floor that runs adjacent to the vagin*) showed a 45% decreased risk of having feelings of vagin*l looseness when they received pelvic floor physiotherapy, compared to the control group. Therefore, in new mothers with a risk factor for vagin*l looseness (see risk factor #3 above), pelvic floor physiotherapy appears to help.

So alongside the anecdotal and theoretical support for pelvic floor physiotherapy, there is now some direct clinical data suggesting that pelvic floor physiotherapy could act to prevent symptoms of vagin*l laxity, at least in one group of high-risk mothers who endured muscular trauma/damage during childbirth.

Overall, the best evidence suggests that pelvic floor physiotherapy helps encourage healthy pelvic floor muscle function and can thereby decrease feelings of vagin*l looseness resulting from childbirth.

Are there other options for treating vagin*l laxity besides physiotherapy?

Surgery for vagin*l tightening

Reconstructive surgery can be used to shorten and/or change the shape of the muscles and tissues around the vagin*, and fat transplantation can be used to increase the fullness of the tissue. These and other surgical approaches can be very effective at increasing vagin*l tightness in patients. However, surgery is invasive, and has associated risks including the potential for nerve damage and loss of vagin*l sensitivity.

Surgical approaches are typically only recommended for patients with vagin*l laxity that appears unresponsive to pelvic physiotherapy. If you are considering surgery, please discuss your candidacy and your options with your family doctor.

Creams, pills and ointments for vagin*l tightening

There does not appear to be any creams, pills or ointments with actual clinical data to back up their claims of improving vagin*l tightness.

Non-prescription creams and pills are not medical products, and are not held to the same regulatory or efficacy standards as actualmedical treatments. The claims made on such bottles often have no clinical data to support them. Nor are there any compelling reasons to believe that these products would work, especially as a long term solution for vagin*l laxity.

Some of these products may also pose a safety concern, causing vagin*l irritation, infection, and allergic reaction. In general, I would say that these products should be avoided. If you feel compelled by the claims made by the manufacturers of these products, please discuss them with your family doctor before trying them out.

Radiofrequency thermal therapy for vagin*l tightening

Another product on the market directed towards vagin*l tightening is radiofreqency thermal therapy. This is basically a device that can warm the vagin*l tissue without burning the surface of the skin. The idea behind this product is that local heating of the tissue will stimulate collagen formation in the vagin*l tissue and thereby re-tighten the tissue at the opening of the vagin*. The commercial leader in this space appears to be the Geneveve product by Viveve.

Although marketing materials for these products claim that they are “clinically proven”, they are not. There have been a very small handful of studies published on this type of therapy, and nothing before 2010. All of these studies were designed without a proper control group, and used subjective (patient reported) measures for vagin*l tightening and sexual satisfaction as the exclusive outcome measure. This means that the studies didn’t include a group of women who received no treatment that they could compare their test subjects to. Even better would have been a group of patients who believed they were receiving the treatment but were in fact receiving no therapy at all (a “blinded control”) – which presumably could easily have been achieved by disabling the machine so that the patient doesn’t know that it’s not working (as is commonly done in well-designed clinical trials of this sort).

So the studies published to date are basically only usable to show the safety of radiofrequency thermal therapy rather than the efficacy of it. Uncontrolled studies with subjective outcome measures such as these can suffer enormously from the placebo effect, and in most instances are entirely unreliable when it comes to determining how well a therapy actually works. In other words, there is currently NO clinical data supporting the proposed benefits of radiofrequency thermal therapy for vagin*l laxity whatsoever.

Is there anything I can do about vagin*l laxity on my own?

Forget about creams and pills! The only clinically validated non-invasive treatment for vagin*l laxity is pelvic floor strengthening. Pelvic floor strengthening is not intended to tighten the muscles of the vagin* directly, but instead to strengthen and tighten the pelvic floor muscles that surround the vagin*, whichshould increase feelings of vagin*l tightness both at rest and when you voluntarily contract your pelvic floor muscles. Pelvic floor strengthening can be accomplished on your own with a little effort and practice. Kegel exercises are a well-known example of a pelvic floor exercise, and one that is well suited to this task.

Below I’ll explain two approaches to performing Kegels: the classic exercise, and using an intravagin*l Kegel device (skip ahead).

How to use classic Kegel exercises to increase vagin*l tightness

#1 Learn to find and contract the muscles

The first and possibly most difficult step is to identify the correct muscles in your pelvis to strengthen. The best description I have heard for finding these muscles is to try to stop urinating mid-stream. Other common cues include trying to “stop gas” or “hold in a tampon”. The muscles that help you do this are the muscles that you need to contract to do a “Kegel”. You should actually try this, don’t just imagine trying it and assume you’ve found the muscles. You may be very good at finding these muscles, or you may be surprised that you can’t. A word of caution though: don’t regularly perform Kegels while urinating. It’s more just a way to try to “find” them so that you know which muscles to target.

When you perform a Kegel correctly it should feel like the area spanning from your pelvic bone to your tailbone contracts and lifts upwards and inwards, and not just the area towards the front or back. Do not contract your buttocks or abdominals, or hold your breath while performing a Kegel. These are very common compensations for a weak pelvic floor that are not functionally equivalent, and they will hinder your development of pelvic floor strength and endurance.

For some women finding these muscles and learning to consciously contract them can be very challenging. This is particularly true for women with low muscle tone, women that have sustained muscle injury in the area (which may reduce the tone and contractility of the affected muscles) and women with reduced pelvic floor sensation – all of which can be common in mothers. Finding the muscles and learning to contract them can also be difficult for women who previously learned to do Kegels the wrong way. Intravagin*l Kegel devices (see below) can be a very effective tool for encouraging proper form.

You could also consider asking for a bit of help.A pelvic physiotherapist can help you quickly identify and learn to contract the correct muscles.They do this by offering you the right verbal cues while examining your body externally and/or internally (which is optional but very effective).It can also be harmful if you regularly perform Kegels incorrectly, and they are not recommended for women with an over-active pelvic floor. A pelvic physiotherapist will ensure that kegels are appropriate for you, teach you to use the correct muscles, and ensure that you are contracting them at the correct amplitude (strength of contraction). They will teach you supportive breathing, help you progress your strengthening routine with time, and help you develop a maintenance program to keep your gains in the future. A pelvic physiotherapist has many tools at their disposal that can be recommended to their patients, based on their individual needs.

After you have found the correct muscles, now it’s time to do some work. Thankfully this can be quite quick and completely discrete. A simple isometric approach (contracting and holding the contraction) can be effective, but some women may want to include physical devices in their exercise routines, such as trying to hold vagin*l cones inside their vagin* (more on this below). As strengthening progresses, it can also be beneficial to practice pelvic floor muscle contractions in different positions and during different activities, to help train the muscles to provide support for various demands.

#2 How much and how often?

This is something that varies a great deal between patients, based on the nature of their particular vagin*l laxity, their ability to locate and contract the pelvic floor muscles correctly, the degree of weakness, and so on. Again, the exercise guidance that a pelvic physiotherapist provides can vary significantly between individuals, but generally you can think of pelvic muscle strengthening programs as very similar to other endurance strengthening exercise programs.

Here’s a good way to start your own exercise program for vagin*l tightening:

  1. Perform your Kegel exercises twice per day. Performing the exercise more frequently may not significantly improve gains, but will certainly make it harder for you to stick with it.
  2. Get in a comfortable sitting or lying position and locate your pelvic floor muscles (as described in the proceeding section). You will likely find that you are better able to perform a proper full-span contraction in some body positions but not others. Find an optimal position for you. If the front of your pelvic floor is weak it will be more difficult to contract your pelvic floor if you have your pelvic floor ‘tucked under’, such as when you are standing and you lean your weight back into your heels. Tilting your body (and pelvis) forward will naturally help you achieve activation of the front of your pelvic floor.
  3. Hold a 10 second contraction of your pelvic floor muscles 10 times in a row. Do this for three sets with a minute rest in between sets. So this equals 30 contractions, twice per day.

As your pelvic floor muscles improve their strength and endurance, progressing your exercise program can offer additional improvements in vagin*l tightness. Such progression could include training the muscles while you are in other positions, or with movement such as during transition from sitting to standing. As with other strengthening exercises, it’s important to exercise them to the point of fatigue in order to build the muscles. But don’t sacrifice form; stop your set if you’ve reached the point where you can no longer perform a Kegel without contracting your buttocks or abdominals, or holding your breath.

To help you keep your hard-fought gains it is also important to develop a maintenance program. Similarly, you wouldn’t stop working out at a gym and expect to keep the results. Performing Kegel exercise three times per week is typically enough to maintain gains, while not being too big of a commitment to stick with it.

Kegel Devices for increasing vagin*l tightness

One popular alternative to performing classic Kegel exercises is to use a intravagin*l strengthening device. Remember above when I said to imagine “holding in a tampon” to help you find the right muscles for performing a Kegel exercise? These devices take that to the next logical step: instead of isometrically contracting the muscles, try holding a weight in your vagin* instead. This can make finding the correct muscles easier, and can also be a very effective training tool. There is a wide selection of products designed for this purpose, and although they are all pretty similar, some are better than others.

Look for a Kegel exercise device that:

  1. Includes a range of weights so that you can gradually advance your training, and so that you are not limited at the heaviest end.
  2. Is an appropriate size. A one-inch diameter should fit most women, and compared to larger-sized devices, should offer a more strenuous workout.
  3. Includes sufficient information on how to use the device and progress your training with it.
  4. Is a safe device (hypoallergenic, and non-porous so that it is easy to clean).

There are many different permutations of Kegel devices available, so look around to find the right product for you. One good example we’ve found is the Intimate Rose Kegel Exercise System.

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Or if you are looking for something a little more sophisticated, devices like the Elvie Trainercan connect to your smartphone via Bluetooth and guide you through your Kegel training in detail. Instead of simply holding a weight, this device measures your contractions as you squeeze it, offering feedback, guidance, and workout routines.[Small disclaimer: if you purchase either item we may receive a very small fee which we use to help support our blog, but we would recommend them regardless.]

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The bottom line on vagin*l laxity and childbirth

vagin*l looseness can be a difficult topic to discuss, and so the frequency of this condition is likely to be under-reported clinically (ref 3). Despite this, accumulating evidence suggests that it is a common condition following vagin*l childbirth. Risk factors for vagin*l looseness include the mother’s age, the number of vagin*l births and vagin*l / pelvic floor trauma during childbirth.

If you’ve recently given birth, be patient with your body. It could take more than 6 months to recover normal vagin*l tightness and sensation. But for those women with persistent laxity concerns that continue beyond the first year, or who otherwise wish to be proactive, you can get started right away on improving the fitness of your pelvic floor muscles.

In fact, for many women the best time to begin pelvic floor strengthening or to seek the advice of a pelvic physiotherapist is during pregnancy. Unfortunately, it can be more difficult to feel your pelvic floor muscles during pregnancy due to a natural loss of body awareness (“proprioception”). Despite theadded challenge, this can be fruitful. It stands to reason that appropriate pelvic floor strengthening during pregnancy would lead to better pelvic floor health outcomes post-partum for a wide range of pelvic disorders including vagin*l laxity. Kegel exercises are generally safe for women with uncomplicated pregnancies, and most women would benefit from doing them (unless they do them incorrectly, or have over-active pelvic floor muscles), but you should consult your health team before starting any exercise program during pregnancy.

If you are suffering from chronic feelings of vagin*l looseness, try our suggestions above, and consider seeking out the advice of a pelvic health physiotherapist or other sexual health specialist. With a little bit of guidance, you may achieve some meaningful and lasting improvements.

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References

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  1. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (5) Caroline Frobes says:

    July 27, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Nice blog post! Loose vagin* is a common problem these days. Kegel exercises are here to tighten loose vagin* in a natural way.

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  2. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (6) Sarah says:

    December 15, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Hi, I have a Kegal 8 pelvic toner. Would you recommend this or are doing the exercises yourself more effective?

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (7) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      December 16, 2018 at 11:08 pm

      Hello Sarah,
      Thank you for your question. We find that biofeedback and electrical stimulation units are helpful in general yes, in particular for patients learning to activate the muscles in the beginning of their rehabilitation. However, learning to contract the muscles without the use of these feedback or stim tools is optimal, since this has the most carryover to your activities of daily living, rather than in a ‘controlled’ environment when the device is in use with more of a ‘passive’ functionality. Learning how to self-activate and specifically, controlling the activation level, intensity and timing of contraction of the pelvic floor musculature, is will convey the most meaningful results in terms of how these muscles function in daily life. I hope that helps Sarah! Best wishes, Lindsay Davey

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  3. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (8) Anonymous says:

    February 20, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    Phenomenally informative article – thank you for your research and insight!

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  4. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (9) Anonymous says:

    August 3, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    My current girl friend is extremely “loose” compared to other partners I’ve been with.
    .. To the point where I have a difficult time climaxing. I have never expertienced this before with previous partners. I care for her deeply, and I’m aware this could be a very sensitive topic, and don’t want to offend her. Any suggestions on how to approach this discussion?

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (10) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      August 11, 2019 at 10:10 pm

      Thank you for your comments! These are indeed sensitive issues, but seeking the expertise of a professional in this realm is certainly valid, and with vagin*l laxity being quite common after vagin*l childbirth, this topic need not be taboo. There are certainly exercises that a pelvic health physiotherapist could instruct your partner as to how to perform, and many couples even participate in these homework exercises together. If vagin*l laxity is affecting a couples’ sexual intimacy and the ability for one or both partners to climax, we definitely recommend speaking to a pelvic health physiotherapist, as they have many tips, tools, and exercises that can help a great deal in increasing the muscular tone and strength in the pelvic floor. In terms of how to go about approaching this discussion, I can recommend you email our sexual health expert directly, Katie Hauck. Katie is a pelvic health physiotherapist who speaks regularly at sexual health education groups on these very topics, and who would provide additional insight. If you would like to connect with her directly, her email is khauck@torontophysiotherapy.ca. Wishing you all the best, Lindsay Davey

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  5. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (11) Anonymous says:

    August 3, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    I should mention that she has had 3 children via natural childbirth.

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  6. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (12) Scared! says:

    March 22, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    I had my first child at 23, vagin*lly and with an episiotomy. I’m now 31, and due with my 2nd child in 2 months. I have noticed since my first child, I am looser and have to work hard with kegels to notice anything. I also notice extra skin inside the vagin* that seemed like it was just hanging there (scar tissue??). I am TERRIFIED of having this one vagin*lly, and want a C-Section. My doctor seems to think I will be fine with a vagin*l delivery. Is my concern okay to bring up, or just extremely shallow? I am thankful my baby is healthy and that a vagin*l delivery would be fine, but loss of more feeling down there and looseness is what scares me. I don’t want to lose my future sex life. Please help!

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (13) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      March 22, 2020 at 11:43 pm

      Hello there,
      Thank you for sharing your story. First of all, no, it is most certainly not shallow to have these concerns – you having trepidation about what a second vagin*l delivery will be like for your tissue integrity and post-partum course is something I would definitely express to your physician. Working with a pelvic health physiotherapist after you deliver would likely be a great resource for you in order to make sure you are recruiting your kegel muscles in the ‘right way’ and to offer suggestions on cueing these muscles to activate, and so on. There are biofeedback tools that can be used (even inexpensive, easy-to-use at-home options) that have been proven quite helpful in many cases where simply trying to activate these muscles on their own is challenging. If there are any concerns following the birth of your second baby, you can certainly always speak to your family physician about a referral to a plastic surgeon, should anything to do with the tissue or scarring be of concern (functionally or aesthetically). I very much encourage you to voice your concerns with your physician however – just so that you are on the same page and know what to expect, with your second delivery. Often subsequent vagin*l births are facilitated by the prior vagin*l delivery and stretch of these tissues previously, so if that’s any consolation, many women don’t find their second vagin*l birth nearly as disruptive to the vagin*l and perineal tissues (though this is a generalization of course). Wishing you all the best, and again, a pelvic health physiotherapist can be an amazing help in restoring good muscle control after giving birth. Best of luck! Lindsay Davey

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  7. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (14) Moira Murray says:

    April 1, 2020 at 2:41 am

    Im 70…had 5 children natural birth. Been through menopause after overectomy. My husband is still sexually active and after a long absebce of,sexual intimacy, startwd up18 months ago. Hw cannot feel my virgina walls when penetration and I do believe my lack of estrogen may also have something to do with this? I do kegel and gym and must say I dont normally suffer with v. dryness…..should I,consukt with a gynecologic? Seems silly at 70 but am still very in love with each other.

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (15) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      April 8, 2020 at 10:02 pm

      Hello Moira, I appreciate your comments and questions. My colleague and pelvic health physiotherapist, Katie Hauck, has weighed in here, as she is the expert on our team in terms of pelvic and sexual health concerns. Here are her insights: “It is never silly to want to remain intimate at any age and continue to express your love. That ‘tight’ feeling with penetration comes from the contracting of the pelvic floor muscles around the vagin*l walls. In particular, when we are experiencing that ‘on the edge’ feeling, and during org*sm, these muscles contract on their own without our conscious thought very fast and rhythmically. While it is true we lose up to 5% of our muscle mass every decade after turning 30, all hope is not lost. In the same way we train other muscles in our body like our quads or biceps with a targeted strength routine, we can train the muscles in the pelvic floor. The challenge with training the pelvic floor comes with a majority of the muscles being on the inside of the body. This makes it difficult to know if we are targeting the right muscle with our training, especially as we lose some of that automatic contraction with childbirth and menopause changes. This is where working with a pelvic floor physiotherapist can be a great resource to help optimize your pelvic floor training.” I hope this is helpful Moira, and that you feel hopeful and confidant that consulting with a pelvic health physiotherapist could prove highly effective. We wish you the best of luck! Lindsay Davey

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  8. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (16) Kathy says:

    April 7, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    Hello,
    Thank you for your informative post.I am 30 y and a mother of 4 kids all natural birth and I noticed right after my first baby that I can’t climax easily as I used too. It takes me too long so I cum by stimulating cl*tor*s instead of having intense internal climax. I feel little loose although I do kegel religiously but it is making little to no difference for me as I still face the same problem. I want my sex life back. What should I do? Would you suggest a surgical repair? I don’t complain of any other problems and wondering if I really need the surgery. I am confused and frustrated. Please help!

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (17) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      April 8, 2020 at 10:09 pm

      Hello Kathy,
      Thank you for your comments and for contributing your experience here. My colleague Katie Hauck, is a pelvic health physiotherapist with extensive experience in the research behind kegel exercises and sexual health, and I asked her to weigh in here: “Sexual desire is complex and involves many emotional, physical and relationship factors that are unique from person to person. No one piece is more important than another. That being said, if we are looking at just the physical, stimulating the cl*tor*s is the way many of us find we can reach org*sm. It is thought that vagin*l org*sms may come from bumping up against part of the cl*tor*s. A large study out of Finland found that more than half the women were able to org*sm through both vagin*l and cl*toral stimulation where only a mere 6% can org*sm through vagin*l stimulation alone. This magical piece of anatomy has over 8000 nerve endings and is thought to be the true G spot in the body. The cl*tor*s connects to 15,000 other nerve endings in the pelvis and can be a trigger for that ‘on the edge’ contraction of the pelvic floor muscles that come before org*sm. In particular, there is one muscle in the pelvic floor, called your PC muscle, that contracts rhythmically and involuntarily during org*sm. Pelvic floor training for org*sm, or Kegels, will only be effective if it is actually recruiting the muscles we need to target. With many muscles making up the pelvic floor running in many different directions and located mostly on the inside of the body, this can be a big challenge to navigate. This is where working with a pelvic floor physiotherapist can be a great resource to help optimize your pelvic floor training, particularly since you have been doing kegel exercises religiously and not finding much change.” I hope this helps Kathy, and gives you confidence that with the right guidance to ensure you are actually strengthening the correct muscles of the pelvic floor in your kegel exercises, you may very well see a meaningful difference in your ability to climax. Wishing you all the best! Lindsay Davey

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  9. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (18) Ms.love says:

    May 25, 2020 at 12:47 am

    I recently just had a child, and I’m pretty sure my vagin* has gotten a lot longer than it was previously. Im unsure at the moment as to why it’s like that but is there anyway to get the bottom of my vagin*l opening to make the commute back up to its original or close to original place? I’m 6 weeks postpartum and I can still see inside there very clearly. There’s lots of sexual discomfort and sometimes there tenderness and pain near the bottom of my vagin*l opening

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    • vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (19) Lindsay Davey, MScPT, MSc, CDT says:

      July 9, 2020 at 9:15 am

      Hello! Thank you for sharing your story and congratulations on the new baby! Indeed, there are many changes and tissue remodeling that can occur for several weeks, even months, after a vagin*l delivery, so given you are still so early post-partum, I would not concern overly that the status of things currently are going to be the new status quo. If vagin*l pain and sexual discomfort persist, I would highly recommend you seek out a pelvic health physiotherapist who treat these symptoms regularly, with excellent results. I wish you much luck and congratulations again!
      Lindsay Davey

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  10. vagin*l Laxity and Childbirth: Is a “Loose vagin*” Common? Treatable? (20) Patience James says:

    January 8, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    Hello, am a mother of 6 and tho i’m not with my husband anymore. Now I have a new man in my life and we love each other deeply and planning to settle down together, but the problem I have now is I feel so loose like never before and it’s making me so uncomfortable and ashamed. I’ve tried the kegel exercise but its not working for me, please is there any other solution you can suggest for me?

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